Posted by Baseball Devil on October 23, 10 at 15:26:29:
In Reply to: Re: Pac 12 baseball posted by West Phoenix Devil on October 23, 10 at 14:52:05:
: : With the conference division split being announced, it is just a shame that Cal is dropping baseball. Could have gone the other way with Colorado having talked about adding baseball sometime in the next decade. Probably will never happen now unless Cal's baseball team is miraculously saved.
: : Title IX and football are what killed the Cal program. Their baseball alumni could easily save the program but to do that, they would have to bring back one of the women's sports that was axed and I don't think that's going to happen.
: : It is amazing how when a men's sport such as baseball, wrestling, or even soccer or gymnastics is about to be cut there is usually a huge outcry to save that program. Never happens with women's sports when they are about to be cut. All the women's sports programs ever do, if anything, is point back to Title IX, cry about their sport being cut and say it's unfair, and file a lawsuit to save their sport. Do you ever hear of alumni stepping up to save a women's sport rather than their athletes and coaches crying about it? Heck no...because nobody cares!
: : But let's not only blame Title IX. Cal is spending $300 million on renovations for the football stadium and an athletic complex. If you took a look at Cal football over the last 20 years I guarantee you the football program has not turned a profit in more than 10 of those years. The notion that football is the cash cow may be true at schools like USC, Texas, Alabama, Florida, Florida State, and Ohio State, who by the way all (except Ohio State) have profitable baseball programs is just not true. It is just the most televised sport and has the most exposure.
: : An interesting study would be to compare the per player cost of running ASU's baseball program versus ASU's football program. Considering the immensely larger number of scholarships the football program can offer, the much larger number of players and staff, the stadium upkeep, etc. I would venture to say ASU baseball provides the athletic department with more bang for its buck than the football program does. Especially if you took TV out of the equation and just went by ticket sales, concessions, merchandise, etc.
: the conference split is only for football.
:: I know but they could have had divisions for baseball if Cal had kept their program and Colorado added one. Would have been a pretty interesting split with 2/3 of the Six Pac playing in the north. ASU and UCLA would have dominated the south unless things drastically changed at USC. UA would be a factor and Utah's program has been steadily improving. Colorado would suck to start but could have been solid eventually. A lot of good baseball players in the state of Colorado.
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