Re: No progress this year at all.

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Posted by ButterBall Devil on November 09, 19 at 09:54:23:

In Reply to: No progress this year at all. posted by Sun Devil Ron on November 09, 19 at 05:53:48:

Do you agree that CTG did not recruit very well?

Especially, when you look at the OL depth chart. (Consider for a moment, the impact of Zach Robertson's absence.) But the same can be said for the DL. CHE did not create this issue. You may not agree, but I think CHE is recruiting better - although "holes" appear to remain.

Absent some kind of remarkable turn around in the remaining season - I would be very surprised if Likens is retained. The schemes and play calling have been bad - not just mediocre.

Hard to say how the team would have performed if CTG had been retained, because some of his players (who likely would be starting now) transferred away, when it became clear that CHE was going a different direction. The roster is generally full of freshman and sophomores at this point. We lose Aiyuk, Kyle and Kobe Williams, Cabral, Hemsley and a few others. Eno may leave (I sure hope he doesn't). But the roster will be better in terms of depth and maturity next season.

I don't think anyone thought ASU would be contending for the PAC12 championship this year. If CTG were here, DSC would be starting, but we still would not have any depth at OL, other than more JC's that CTG would have brought in.

I understand the frustration - beating MSU on the road re-set expectations. CU and UCLA were simply "not good", and it is easy to question whether any progress is being made, following the UCLA game. Then, having 2 weeks to simply "stew" on the bad loss, has likely affected perceptions.

Bottom line - I think it is legit to question the CHE hire - no one can say it has been a clear success as of toda. But I think there are reasons to believe better days are ahead.

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