Posted by Big Ron on June 18, 20 at 23:50:03:
In Reply to: FFS, it's not a purge of Civil War references posted by Trogdor on June 18, 20 at 20:32:24:
And it has nothing to do with racism. The University of Nevada was established in Reno in the 1870s. But as the southern portion of the state grew in population, UNLV was established as a branch. By the 1960s it gained independent accreditation. The *Rebels* had rebelled from their parent, Reno. That is the origin of their name.
So explain to me why Hey Reb must die as a symbol of Black oppression.
Also, in the name of racism, we are purging much of our history in a manner that George Orwell would find shocking. Removing statues of Robert E. Lee and others is ridiculous. Leeís family was prominent from the birth of this nation. His fatherís side fought with Washington. Was a member of the Continental Congress. Governor of Virginia. Lee was a West Point Graduate and a well respected general. But America was going through a transition from THESE UNITED STATES to THE United States. Lincoln proposed conscripting the state militias into the newly formed US army. That meant Virginians had to kill Virginians in the name of the president. Lee, like others, drew the line feeling that THE United States was creating another king that they could not obey against their state. Note that slavery has not been mentioned. From The Smithsonian - When Lincoln called on the loyal states for troops to invade the South, Southerners could see the issue as defense not of slavery but of homeland. A Virginia convention that had voted 2 to 1 against secession, now voted 2 to 1 in favor.
In fact, by then slavery was already losing its place, even in the South. Lincoln tried to avoid civil war because he stated that slavery would die out in a few years anyway due to political pressures and Northern states economic sanctions. But Lee resigned from the union army to defend his home. As for slavery, The Smithsonian states Lee once wrote to his wife in 1856 - The passage begins: ďIn this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages.Ē But he goes on: ďI think it however a greater evil to the white than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former.
So I ask, is Robert E. Lee a symbol of racism?
This is the first and last time anybody will see me being pulled into such a debate on Cactus Ranch by a dumb ass like you.
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