Posted by SunDevil4Life on February 04, 21 at 08:41:47:
In Reply to: Jruiz posted by Daddy VG on February 04, 21 at 07:50:20:
Jruiz, your opinion matters just about as much as how much you enjoyed hearing the update on Todd Graham.
I find it strange, the TDS (Todd Derangement Syndrome) that folks on this board have for CTG.
Answer the question : Why the hate ???? Not mild dislike, but hate ...
And before doing so, think about all of the conversations about Dennis Erickson being up at Utah, positive stories that came out about him when he retired, etc., no hate there.
How about Mike Norvell, Iíve heard him discussed on this board a gazillion times, and primarily robust all positive commentary.
How about Billy Napier ?? Lots of talk about Coach Napier after his departure, but not hateful or dismissive rhetoric like Iíve heard on this board about Todd Graham. And weíve talked about a ton of other past coaches, and past assistant coaches who have moved on and have had great conversations. Not everyone agrees with each other obviously, but itís not just outright hateful or dismissive.
I could go on and on, but I donít understand why people have the disdain they do for Graham. Frustration? Heck yes, I was so frustrated with Todd Graham in a couple of those final years with a terrible defense, terrible pursuit angles, horrendous tackling, constant blitzing without the DBís who can play man to man, blowing through timeouts nonstop while on defense, his sideline antics, etc.
But the guy turned our program around and gave us a few really exciting years. He also was a fantastic salesman for the program, raised a ton of money in the likes we have not seen in a long time. He got that stadium filled up in the early years and the excitement was over the top, and I find it ironic how easy it is, for MANY, to forget all of that.
Donít get me wrong, I am not a Todd Graham apologist. I just donít get the disdain and hate for the guy. I was up in the air whether he had earned enough in that final season to be terminated, but as soon as Herm Edwards was hired, I was fired up and on the train ! (loved the Herm Edwards hire from the get-go, wasnít thrilled with the crony search process however)
The ironic thing is alsoÖ Todd Graham had a better win-loss record than the past 6 ASU coaches dating back to 1988. That list includes Koetter, Marmie, Dennis Erickson, Herm Edwards, and the beloved Bruce Snyder(.552) . Some of those Snyder years were brutal, so brutal. However he rarely is discussed in football conversations with hate or disdain.
I wish Todd Graham the best, and I hope he does really well at Hawaii.
Thanks for the original post Bayou Devil.
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